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Les Patates d'Everland [ Bandes Dessinées : auteurs, séries, et toutes ces sortes de choses... ]
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| | | | y a un bouton stop enfin : c'est le bouton "arrêter" en haut de la page.
wooooo les nuls |
| | crepp, 16.05.2003 à 20:50 | 91056 |
| | | ya un midi comme chez morti!!! le bouton stop viiiite!!! arggg yen a pas!!! arg glurgleu...
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip...
Ben quoi, petitboulet a très bien exprimé le problème :o)
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| | | | ya un midi comme chez morti!!! le bouton stop viiiite!!! arggg yen a pas!!! arg glurgleu...
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip... |
| | | | J'aime beaucoup, Ever.
Le prochain, ce sera "Yellow Submarine" avec un sous-marin en forme de patate? ;o) |
| | tym, 13.04.2003 à 0:03 | 86450 |
| | | Oui super clean la nouvelle version du site en cours de réalisation :o) Bravo pour tes dernières réalisations, c'est franchement du super boulot.
On attend la suite :o) !! |
| | | | | ouaip! en effet, les projets d'ever font définitivement saliver! vivement "voyage au pays des songes"! :o) |
| | Obion, 09.04.2003 à 15:07 | 85856 |
| | | je viens de découvrir la page de projets d'Ever!! il y en a un petit paquet que j'ai hate de voir en albums!!
Bouge toi un peu le ... le poignet Ever!!!et puis démarche un peu mince!! |
| | Yuio, 05.04.2003 à 9:27 | 85174 |
| | | Waaaahhhh.. avec nos sites sur bubulle, on va pouvoir ramener des gens sur le long long terme... nan, en fait je crois que des gens passent qd même pour voir ce que c'est que ce site... Il feuillète jusqu'au moment où il tombe sur Everland et ses patates: il leur reste alors deux solutions. Adhérer pour espérer voir enfin une patate en robe de chambre ou fuir pour tenter de vérifier que leur potager a bel et bien été transformé en pelouse !!!
/me dit "vive Ever, vive la merde, vive la boue et vive les tupudukuscumjackfacials ! |
| | | | | Tu vois, Ever, tu peux être utile, de temps en temps. ;o) |
| | | | | hé! hé! bien vu! c'Est en effet ta petite news qui m'a amené à m'inscrire :o) |
| | june, 04.04.2003 à 22:57 | 85151 |
| | | | hello antoine (variante) |
| | | | Tain mon site aura amené un visiteur pour bubulle ! Je commence à rembourser Manu pour son lien en première page :o)))
Salut Antoine |
| | | | | Salut, Antoine (que je connais un peu grâce au tchat des BDA où je suis allé faire quelques lâches incursions). ;o)) |
| | | | je le redis, cette nouvelle version de ton site est super! c'est merveilleux ces petites news! c'est encore du html que tu disais?
ah au passage, bonjour tout le monde, je suis un petit nouveau :o) |
| | june, 04.04.2003 à 14:12 | 85057 |
| | | | ah flute... :/ |
| | | | | ah non pas du tout June, j'ai pas parlé des trois possibilités concernant la suite de Grosbill :o) |
| | june, 04.04.2003 à 1:30 | 85015 |
| | | | trop tard. :) |
| | | | Au dernières nouvelles Bens, le n°2 de Grosbill sortira. Y a donc un certain progrès... mais on attend d'avoir les retour du 1. Reste donc tout de même une grosse incertitude.
Il sera pas moins cher (le prix est "élevé", mais bon, c'est pas vraiment le point faible du mag à mon goût) mais affiche une liste de dessinateurs bien plus alléchante que le 1 et même la présence de journaliste pour le rédactionnel.
En ce qui concerne le numéro 3 par contre, on est un peu dans l'attente de nouvelles de la part de l'éditeur. Les rumeurs sont pas rassurantes mais je préfère pas étaler tout ça sur le forum. |
| | | | Les patates, c'est pas ces trucs dans les BD qui servent à mettre les paroles des personnages à l'intérieur?
Euh... Non, finalement, ça, je crois que ça s'appelle des bulles... ou des fils à terre, si on veut vraiment causer correc'. |
| | bens, 03.04.2003 à 14:23 | 84824 |
| | | C'est une infamie, que viennent donc faire ces immondes legumineuses ds la partie si huppee de bulledair qu'est la partie BD !!??
Il faut ecraser ces sales pommes pleines de terre, il faut en faire de la puree, de la chair a saucisse, hum non apres tout pour ca ca va pas etre tres possible. En tout cas il faut se battre, desormais ca commence a gronder ds les chaumieres aussi bien qu'a ruer ds les brancards. La resistance pommedeterrophobe est en train d'emerger, elle va bientot frapper un grand coup. Prends garde oh roi des pommes de terres everland, notre courroux sera terrible niark niark niark...
Sinon bien joue pour tes quelques pages ds grosbill, c'est pas mal du tout. Et puis quelques qus: qd le 2eme va-t-il sortir ? et sera-t-il moins cher ou non ? |
| | june, 03.04.2003 à 11:44 | 84795 |
| | | ah merrrrrdddeeu...
j'etais tellement content qu on me montre autrement qu'en brindille (oui, ever dit vrai, je suis maigre...), et paf, le mec brise le silence... j'etais tellement heureux d'etre gros,... arf.
bon, en meme temps, une patate maigre, ca court pas les rues, ni les champs, d'ailleurs.
merci encore msieur E, pour cette pattatisation qui m'honorifie. :) |
| | | | Tu l'as dit Crepp, je compte pas mettre un costard quand je viens dans mon sujet tout de même !
Je garde mes bottes plein de boue, ça va saloper toute la partie BD ! :o)))
(m'enfin,je me suis laisser dire que de toute façon, avec la V2, les changements sont pas finis) |
| Thorn,  02.04.2003 à 22:11 | 84753 |
| | | | c'est l'ascension dûe au mâle ? :o)) |
| | crepp, 02.04.2003 à 22:08 | 84752 |
| | | | cette ascension vient de signer la fin de la partie BD :o)) |
| | Obion, 02.04.2003 à 21:52 | 84748 |
| | | ben moi aussi!
ce serait plus logique maintenant... ça va un peu dérider la partie bd! :o) |
| | Thorn, 02.04.2003 à 21:49 | 84747 |
| | | | Moi, je vote pour ! |
| | Obion, 02.04.2003 à 21:46 | 84745 |
| | | | ce sujet ne devait-il pas rejoindre la partie bd??(on vote? :o)))) |
| | compte supprimé . 02.04.2003 à 21:41 | 84744 |
| | | >> Je sais pas pour la Belgique mais en tous les cas, il est disponible dans tous les kiosques en France. Il y a aussi un petit article sur BDnews.net : là.
Gilles, dans ton lien vers le site de Manu Larcenet en bas de ton article .... il a réouvert ;-) |
| | compte supprimé . 02.04.2003 à 21:39 | 84742 |
| | | | On peut voir ça qqpart ? |
| | Thorn, 02.04.2003 à 21:18 | 84741 |
| | | Moi aussi, j'ai eu les honneurs du pinceau d'Ever :o)
(mais pas en patate, sauf sur la bannière d'annif de Manu) |
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Un petit dessin réalisé en 5 minutes pour mon site internet. C'était une tentative un peu malheureuse pour dessiner June de tête et en patate. Comme il est tout maigre le ressemblance est très lointaine... Mais bon, je le poste quand même parce que... euh... parce que...
(tain, mais pourquoi je poste ça moi ???) |
| | Gilles, 04.03.2003 à 10:14 | 80571 |
| | | | Je sais pas pour la Belgique mais en tous les cas, il est disponible dans tous les kiosques en France. Il y a aussi un petit article sur BDnews.net : là. |
| | | | Euh, j'ai pas lu le Grosbill...
Il est disponible en Belgique? |
| | Gilles, 04.03.2003 à 8:53 | 80559 |
| | | Bin personne a remarqué la BD d'ever dans le premier numéro de Grosbill ?!?!?!
Félicitations Ever' !!! |
| | | | ah oui, il m'a meme pas prevenu du changement de look... cool
bon sinon ya un lien qui merde, "ticon et grota" ca ouvre sur le gag de la tondeuse :o/ |
| | crepp, 21.02.2003 à 11:15 | 79101 |
| | | | je voulais juste avoir le 300 ième message :o) |
| | Gilles, 21.02.2003 à 11:13 | 79100 |
| | | | Je viens de remarquer le "relookage" du site d'Ever'. J'aime bien. |
| | | | hé mais j'avais pas vu...
Bon, j'organise de ce pas un voyage en pologne, je réserve des salles dpour monter un spectacle :o))) |
| | | | | ça vous la coupe hein ;o))) |
| | | | | voila ce que ça donne avec un traducteur polonais/anglais trouvé sur le net, tout ne passe pas, mais on peut déjà comprendre plus. J'ai peur qu'un repassage dans babelfish donne une vf très très aléatoire ;o))) |
| | | | Metacomics potato hand on internet part / http://www.bulledair.com/everland, Everland, amateur framer of comics cracks , it publishes work. Series is among they entitled sweet potato ( ) Patate douce. She (it) is simple very in respect graphic, it hand ascetic, strip (get rid) text. Title sweet potato is hero - anthropomorphic, round essence, stripped (gotten rid) particular signs. It, ups and downs of potatoes are featured that, history adjusted illustrates best number 3, titled Boï & iuml; & iuml; & iuml; & iuml; ( ) ng Brzdęęęęęk. Here, hero walks about , suddenly < snap > noticing (remark), that are bent part frame spodnia. Initial consternation fastly recedes satisfaction place and potato with smile on face begin skyrocketing as on trampolinie. Unfortunately,, joy does not last long it cracks - part frame spodnia and aghast hero passes away in depths. These eighteen small cadre (frames) it imitated (managed) illustrated joke very, however, which (who) hides in more, than moment of good fun.
Unwritten agreement (convention) exists in comics between framer but reader, saying, that graphic elements, like dymki either (or) bracketing of cadre (frame), have be present transparent from definition from the point of view of world, be as (serve) constructing of story only usually < ordinary > they do not hamper about heads - hero comics dymki and they do not run on frames of cadre (frames). I will transmit working name this agreement (convention) " principle " transparentności. If exactly history przyjrzymy Everlanda, we will notice (will remark), that there above-mentioned principle stop bind (be in force). Nothing surprise has first staff (cadre; frame) in present enclosing (enclose with) form hero square, although there is part of picture physically, it plays role in it only " interpunkturing ", so, other status has completely, than fragment of drawing, it present potato. When however, potato discovers, that " floor ", after which (who) stąpa, it is elastic and on more and more cheerfully begin her (it) swing, does not have doubt, that now line belongs to world as the most meaning bottom part frame, potato exists in which (who).
On area of several cadre (frame) principle storm < pull down > Everland transparentności hero is with frame in state of (condition of) entrance (entry) to interaction enclosing (enclose with) staff (frame). Reader become (stay) with (from) something unexpected confronted, with (from) something, that breaks opening for each kind of creation between author fundamental agreement (convention) and reader, communities use codes it concerning. If some (certain) element of case (together; time) fulfills role ordering, contents not bearing, in order to take part without in events in the light of moment introduce (present) later żenady, capability of agreement undergoes challenging in whole between framer and recipient (receiver), because can not be already some this last nothing and it is left in taking up of attempt (test; probation) language framer odcyfrowania cure package of principle -, it facilitated which (who) it (him) until now, instable becomes. However, it does not wake up at reader of perplexity (puzzle) in case of (accidentally of) history such procedure Everlanda neither uncertainties, it cure laugh, because there is surprising fairest recipe for good joke exactly. Result < result > from there, that recipient (receiver) is conscious breakdown of (fracture of) principle, but it treats in humorous category. Extract exit (outlet) beyond such interpretation general conclusions slowly , concerning comics as narrative arts.
Usually < ordinary > we set up (found), that really, told feature histories can happen or < be > in our world, or < be > in the light of invent, but to analogous manner to our organize generally ( even if it exists in it e.g. magic Floats ). This way, recipient (receiver) is identify in state (condition) with hero, told events can have interpretation, concern reality which (who) give, we live in which (who). Meantime procedure Everlanda, from appearance (pretence) innocent so, attachment of (tie of) junction its (his) breaks history with real world, she (it) stops have in it that meaning. So, we can envisage manner to that in analogous situation to it , what (which) has been placed potato how (as) this event in? That elastic line had that real meaning have, be there part square enclosing (enclose with) hero spodnią? Where passes away hero after falling out (should) from frame? Floats what (which) moral from this tale? It don't swing on line " enclosing (enclose with) your staff (frame), can spoil you because "? Contradictions are increased and affirmation is solution sole , that history can exist in comics only Everlanda and has reason of life only in it, has no meaning besides it. Therefore, there is example of autoreference art Brzdęęęęęk, samowystarczającej, with real world stripped (gotten rid) typical rate. There is model metacomics about comics - comics, meaning have about plot only and in reference exclusively and presence of materials, it has been realized (accomplished) with the aid of which (who).
With form Freda igranie
One has sighted with form in comics of capability with its (his) form for feature purposes not dozing Freda igranie Everland igrania. I have described which (who) in text interesting narrative experiments prolonging of rope ( Fred, or narrator is author of two-page history in comics entitled interference ) ( ) Interférence. There described has been moved game comics conventions further highly else. Hero , similar to strangely man ( ) wąsaty Freda, it walks about quietly, when suddenly < snap > it runs into in bracketing frame ( invisible ) hole and whole lands on picture almost < law (as of right) > below. It imitates with return it (him) wdrapać, before however, it manage to come for it (him), it meets it copy " ", which (who) has run into frame that only below. Dialog ensues between them. Hero is filled with passage of time of staff (cadre; frame) " copy ", about discussing it, which (who) was from they first here and who is star of whole history. It ensues at the end bójka, forms fly by from frame for frame, brawling.
Principles has managed to break (to fracture) in this short history more else Fredowi, comics is ruled which (who), than Everlandowi. On thought mum < beguile > < have > here not only - described highly - principle element " interpunkturing " transparentności. Author challenges deeper rooted rules else, for example, such as shrewd direction of reading in interference one-valued (unequivocal) not give establish, which (who) picture follow (step) for (after) which (who) exactly. Reading to classic manner from mountain (top) for bottom ( and on the left it does not bring on apprehension right < law (as of right) > ), peep for cadre (frames) only below lying directly and meaning allows to transmit integrity above given. However, it are not belonged to give tackle to trap that systematic analysis shows, that one-valued (unequivocal) not give say, it belongs to read individual pictures in that sequence. Each statement in principle and each staff (frames), although can cause compact impression in or with reference to several neighbor cadre (frames) even, they lose unambiguity, when confront become (stay) with widest enclosing (enclosing with). For example, there is on start of history so ( two overhead strip (thong) ) either (or) on end ( two bottom ).
Other principle, comics contradicts which (who) Freda, it is possible to call " continuity world introduced (present) ". She (it) relies on it, that if we see two in (to) neighbor two rectangular frames, similar to form very, usually it ( if it will not ascertain narrator one-valued (unequivocally), with the aid of text most often, that otherwise, there is set up (bet; found) ), that there is same person, in (to) different two introduced (presented) points of times. Interference breaks with this foundation sometimes, for example, on last two (two) staff (cadre; frames), when one tetrad of hero laughs at second (other), although we should deal according to rules with same group, in (to) two grasped moments. Alike < similar > there is on start of story, when hero intervenes to discussion with (from). In (to) other staff (frame) .
Interference - just as Brzdęęęęęk, but with the aid of other instruments it shows -, that language of comics, from appearance (pretence) simple very and direct, however, there is compound (composite) system. Ignoring or outraging ruling before < he (its; his; it) > < it > foundation and disturbance of transfer causes rules not only and squeeze of receipt, but breaking of its (his) attachment (tie) with objective reality also, with linear logic of tale. It is tied in this case (accidentally) with resignation from foundation, that narrative art should present events, which (who) get (reach) in the light of analogous to real and they concern heroes, reader can be identified with which (who). History emerges instead of it, which (who) has meaning only and with reference to its (her) manner of realization exclusively in this case of (chance of) comics -. There is result, that moral two (two) this history does not belong to world of ethics, but for closed comics principle uniwersum. This moral - and genuine source of capability to coming into being of such formal experiment fact is -, that comics it graphic art, then result of cover of paper color lines and spots. It, that they present compact story, somehow analogous to real world, there is result of existence of compound (composite) convention. Everything it is possible to draw yet, does not have author of comics but no limitation priori, convention impose it (them) only it (him), in order to work can become (stay) by recipient (receiver) apprehend correctly, also conscious this convention. It tells designer (drawer) to such convention but have at disposal two-dimension surface of sheet of paper of (rationing coupon of) paper not other manner, otherwise, treat lines (ropes) reader enclosing (enclose with) staff (cadre; frame), but otherwise, in (to) their centers (means) - finding (be placed).
Mathieu Paper comics
Brzdęęęęęk And there is experiments interference, short far too < market >, in order to it is possible to suspect them authors of some (certain) serious feature intention. However, it is possible to take advantage game with comics conventions for construction of extend story bold it has made in series entitled - Marc-Antoine Mathieu Julius-Corentin Acquefacques, prisonnier des rê ( ves Julius-Corentin Acquefacques, prisons of (prisoners of) dreams ). I will not describe world introduced (presented) here neither plots of these histories ( although they are very interesting and lightness command (prove), author operates comics with that and cultural codes ), because this small meaning has for theme. However, they are important very non-typical, formal ideas cleanly, for feature construction key.
One of cadre (frame) is dispatched (erased) start in first volume entitled ( ) l'Origine opening is visible (be visible) instead of it (him) in sheet of paper (rationing coupon) -. There is pretext for placing in plot of event of type déjà vu due to dispatched (erased) fragment -, same is visible during reading staff (frames) twice. It adjust for tell history perfectly, heroes are perfectly conscious which (who) it, that they exist in comics.
In third volume of series, title. Process ( ) le Processus, author has employed other procedure of similar type one of part presents spiral, paper is cut across along which (who). Shoulders of spirals converge towards center of (means of) part and there they are sticked for next sheet of paper (rationing coupon). Spiral stretches at preference of part, but drawn says on hero her (it) I have felt how (as) world ", in order to right now < pestilence > begin dropping ", that is it exactly, it would perceive that intelligent, two-dimension essence in such situation. Spiral is pretext for displacement of hero for tridimensional world, on several farthest in the form of photos illustrated part, earliest sheets of paper of (rationing coupons of) comics representative < introduce (present) >, on sand lying disorderly. Hero runs to some from these sheets of paper (rationing coupons) case (accidentally) several times " ", there place had on moment in (to) drawn in album events appearing ( that actually several times earlier and now it has been explained only ).
Last as volume of series until now, finn titled la de ( start end ) le Début, next curious idea takes advantage there certain history is presented twice, manners on symmetric two zględem. One is begun on start of album " copy " history and it finishes in half (hunt), it is possible to read second (other) inverting book upside down and from end reading " ". Mr. Acquefacques is symmetric move in one history also plot forward (, during when all other for rear -; there is in second (other) vice versa ). Both (both of) stories face each other in center of (means of) album and there is moment of their culminant both (both of; both; both of).
These three ideas have following (step) common feature they are based on physical manipulation form of album as printed sheet of paper (rationing coupon) paper zszytych. There is, in case of (accidentally of) interference so as, distinct confirmation of fact would seem obvious that comics exist in such but other material forms have not. We have for action with breakdown of (fracture of) certain principle once again here transparentności, this time saying, that comics tells history, it is not important, sheets of paper (rationing coupons) consist with (from) what, they have that size and that they have been printed two-sided. Content has reckon graphic ( also ), but not exact, physical form. Meantime form stops be in comics decoration it exactly Mathieu and it invades as with full rights actor of event on stage. It confirms spatiality of comics again, concreteness for example, in resistance for - majority prose abstrakcyjności.
It causes rare and therefore, impossibility of displacement of this story for very interesting < interest (concern) > other form jakiejkolwiek. For example, < exemplary > scanning of all of this album does not allow displacement described above formal procedures, that seriously disturbs correct apprehension introduced (presented) in (to) them history. There is rare feature completely usually they lose electronic versions of comics in new form from meanings nothing. It makes from albums about mr. Acquefacque one of most rooted in personal form of comics series. So, relating would seem with such plot ( - not enough (little) significant < signify > ) wonder as form of part, papierowość if (or) there is physical features in the form of book with all its (her) innovatory issued < edition (issue) > ( ) and very seldom meet (face each other).
Conclusions completely < hand > postmodernistyczne
Comics happens it about two art faces it is as (serve) from one part for tale of history, then for devolution of knowledge about world introduced (presented), appearance , structure and events in it getting (reach). Therefore, there is art feature as the most, just as epika, but as such - abstract. However, second (other) face dozes in it also, always present, but seldom sight three-dimensional (spatial), concrete, physical. There is result comics graficzności - feature irrevocable, definitive, however, usually consequences are covered by authors under compound (composite) coats of (layers of) conventions which (who) thrifty (diligent) ( which (who) complexity too be unsighted ). Work construct to name designer (drawer) so transparentności, in order to it has forgotten reader about dimension (measurements) album rozciągłym and it has concentrated on transmitted (rescheduled) by him (it) abstract - because with form not related directly - content. However, framers exist, which (who) treat physical representation of comics as part of area, language of comics operates in which (who), then they recognize (regard), that it is possible to base on them not only esthetics, and also content. Work I have described several of they - over they lose relationship (association) with real world - as result and autoreference become cleanly. In other words share (action) happens in comics . Literally.
About better examples of meetings of comics with modern mental currents hard, postmodernism like if (or) dekonstrukcjonizm. There is declaration of fact not only, and also traffic indicator some this way should be led (driven) joyce comics < comics > and Białoszewscy.
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| | | | | c'est bien, on apprend que patate douce se dit "S³odki Ziemniak" |
| | | | crepp, traduction!!! ;o)))
je suis content, ça m'a fait retrouver la planche de fred, a laquelle j'ai pensé dès que j'ai vu patate douce %))) |
| | manu, 07.01.2003 à 20:57 | 71364 |
| | | | Everland, c'est une star en pologne ! :o)) |
| | | | | On ne se rend pas compte à quel point la vie des patates est cruelle. Il faut être un vrai Conan le Barbouze pour survivre dans la jungle légumineuse. |
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Un petit dessin bien con, humour coup de bâton, en hommage à ma maman qui adore la lecture et mon papa qui adore la tondeuse.
De temps en temps j'aime bien dessiner des trucs très cons :o) |
| | Gilles, 13.10.2002 à 17:29 | 54754 |
| | | | Joli Ever' ! |
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pour le site www.focu.info |
| | frads, 10.10.2002 à 19:17 | 54274 |
| | | | Son patate-prof est une sinistre prémonition... Patate à lui, tiens :o)) |
| | | | | Pas encore, mais ça peut venir! |
| | frads, 10.10.2002 à 19:14 | 54269 |
| | | | Il est chauve avec des cheveux blancs, Ever? :o)) |
| | | | | Je te le laisse, si tu veux. :o)) |
| | nyl, 10.10.2002 à 19:10 | 54266 |
| | | | joli fantasme :o)) |
| | | | | J'aimerais pas me réincarner en élève avec Ever comme instit'. :o) |
| | Thorn, 10.10.2002 à 19:02 | 54262 |
| | | | mdr :o) |
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"Ma dernière merde colorée" © yuio |
| | | | | Oui mais moi je sais encore ce que j'écris ! |
| | | | | Non, je disais que j'étais d'accord avec ever mais pas avec grunt, je ne te permet pas d'interprêter mes paroles Keyan ! |
| | | | moi aussi
Mais pas d'accord avec Grunt |
| | Grunt, 03.10.2002 à 21:30 | 53004 |
| | | Voilà.
Si vous le désirez, Manu, bien aimablement, se propose de mettre en place le systeme de l'avatar.
Ce systeme permet de pourvoir chacun de vos posts d'une petite image de votre choix, afin de personnaliser encore plus l'incroyable personnification de vos messages.
Alors si vous voulez choisir une image qu'on verrait à coté de votre nom, dites le maintenant dans le topic "appel aux urnes".!!
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| | | | | chuis d'accord avec Keyan |
| | patate, 03.10.2002 à 21:19 | 52996 |
| | | | Moi je trouve qu'il écrit très lisiblement everland... à la limite, on me dirait qu'il est instit que ça m'étonnerait même pas ! |
| | Grunt, 03.10.2002 à 21:12 | 52991 |
| | | Perso je suis du même avis que Kuk.
C'est donc une preuve absolue, puisque moi et le crapaud prénomé hugues, sommes rarement du même avis. |
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